Tuesday, April 7, 2009

Canseco Says Manny Cheated

From Boston.com:
Jose Canseco said he is 90 percent certain that Manny Ramírez's name is on the list of 104 major league players who tested positive for steroids in 2003. Speaking at a forum Friday night at the University of Southern California, Canseco said he believes the reason Ramírez did not receive a long-term contract was because team owners know who is on the list and didn't want to take a chance on the Dodger slugger. "Why didn't Ramírez get a long-term deal?" Canseco asked. "Why were owners gun-shy about signing arguably the game's best hitter?" He said the lack of interest raised red flags, and he told the crowd that Ramírez's "name is most likely, 90 percent" on the list. Canseco did say that he has no way of knowing if Ramírez is on the list. In Sunday's Los Angeles Times, Ramírez said: "I got no comment, nothing to say about that. What can I say? I don't even know the guy."
Before anyone starts with the Canseco is lying dirtbag stuff, I must ask you, who has he accused that turned out to be innocent? Oh right, nobody.

He is a dirtbag, but he hasn't be proven to be a liar yet.

18 Comments:

Anonymous said...

I have never really liked him and just couldn't stand him when he was talking smack about A-Rod but now I'm not so sure. You're right, he hasn't been proven to be a liar.

Anonymous said...

I give him the benefit of doubt until he's proven wrong. Canseco that is.
It wouldn't surprise me about Manny. Big HR guy over the last 10/13 yrs. Just as well it wouldn't surprise me about Ortiz.
Actually no one will surprise me other then Derek Jeter Mo Posada.

Yankeeboy98 "B-Boy" said...

He's just saying this because he was right about A-Rod. If nobody leaked the tests everybody would still think he's a nutjob.

He's just saying, "Well, I was right once, why can't I be right again?"

Anonymous said...

Greg you're right he hasn't been a liar. But this time he is just speculating because of contract issues and the economy. He may be right, but he has no knowledge to support his claim either way.

Anonymous said...

We all know he is right, lets get real people, it doesnt take a genius to see who is obviously taking steroids.

Anonymous said...

you don't say no comment unless you've got something to hide

Eliezer said...

I don't think Manny used the stuff, he is a arguably the hardest worker hitter in the league and I think Canseco is saying that using it as an opportunity to maybe write another book and make money, can't blame him for that. If the owners knew that and was a factor on contract negotiations, then why did the Dodgers outbid themselves for him? Makes no sense to me, but everything its possible.

Greg Cohen said...

Eliezer,

A-Rod is a very hard worker too, and he still cheated.

27forYanks said...

Take a look at Manny Ramirez as an Indian and then his increase in size as a Red Sox. Very big possibility Canseco is right, sadly, once again. And I agree with Greg. Many players in the league have been quoted saying A-Rod is one of the hardest workers in the entire league. Doesnt mean he's not adding a boost to that hard work.

Liam Gallagher said...

Never thought of his name in the list.

Anonymous said...

Take a look at his size growth. He was once a little bigger than Jeter when they were the same age. Then he got closer to Big Papi by the end of his Red Sox career. Very questionable.

Anonymous said...

Who the f#$ cares anymore?! Canseco is talking out of his @$$ and hoping that he's right. I'm not even goign to put anything into it even if Manny is on that f'ing list. Let's play mother f'ing baseball!

Greg Cohen said...

Anon,

I can understand why some wouldn't care anymore, so I won't argue that with you. But you can't say Canseco is talking about of his ass. He's been right about everyone so far.

Eliezer said...

At age 20 I was 140 lbs, 10 months later I was around 198 lbs without roids or anything just working out and eating a lot, I don't understand why people think it is steroids that’s normal to put on weight as you get older if you continue to work out, I doubt that Jeter is a heavy lifter or a lifter at all.

I’m not saying that he didn’t use it but there’s another reason why teams stayed away from Manny maybe somebody should’ve bought Canseco a news paper seems that he is not watching news lately, but he could b right.

Mike B. said...

Yep, he hasn't been proven a liar yet. Manny? Probably. Big Ugly ("Pappy")? Probably.

You know, I'd love to see that list of the other names.

Mike

PS Greg, as I said in another thread, you might want to take anti-spam "type the word" measures as soon as you can. Hell, I'm lucky I can read English, let alone Chinese....

Liam Gallagher said...

I would too. Theres probably some red sox that took them.

Mike B. said...

You can bet there are some Boston names on that list, Liam. So might that be one of the reasons the list hasn't been released?

Mike

Anonymous said...

He's been right about everyone he's had interaction with in the game. Everyone he accused was his teammate at some point in time. The guy has been out of the game for a while now, how would he know if Manny was on the list or not? He's totally speculating.