Steve Lombardi of WasWatching.com is reporting that Frank Russo, (wasn't that the guy from The Jerky Boys?) was on New York Baseball Digest Radio’s Yankee Special, and said that there is a possible Robinson Cano for Carlos Beltran deal in the works.
Lombardi goes on to say the Jose Veras, Brian Bruney, or Ian Kennedy and another prospect would also be part of the deal.
It's just a rumor so take it with a grain of salt, but let's suspend disbelief for a moment and say it is true, how do you feel about this deal?
Thursday, October 9, 2008
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Robinson Cano plus a pitcher for Carlos Beltran?
I prefer Robinson Cano for Josh Hamilton or Cano plus two pitchers for Roy Halladay.
Heck. No. I wouldn't trade Cano for Beltran straight up. Cano is a 2B, wayyy younger and cheaper, with a potentially bright future ahead of him. Beltran is a quality CF, but he's overpaid and brings nothing extraordinary to the table, and is coming off of two "ok" seasons, both under a .900 OPS. By the end of next season, you might have a situation where Cano and Beltran are putting up similar numbers, and 2 to 3 seasons from now, Cano will be better... and playing 2B as opposed to OF.
I'd rather take the chance that Cano's .890 OPS in 06 and .841 OPS in 07 are more what he's capable of, and that last season's abysmal .715 is just a bad year.
Of course, I think you need to prescribe to the theory that Cano will get better, and improve not just on last year but on previous years as well. If you don't believe that, then I suppose it's not unreasonable to consider a Beltran/Cano swap.
If we throw in a pitcher though, that's going overboard. Beltran will be 32 when next season starts. That's about the age where things can start going south. I'd rather take the chance on Cano in his upswing than Beltran in his downswing.
The only thing I'd personally trade Cano for, right now, is a #1, maybe #2 starter. Not just any old starter either, but a solid, dependable starter.
We don't need Beltran. Look at it this way, is the team really going to be better like this:
Beltran in CF + who the heck knows at 2B
Or like this:
Damon/Nady/Gardner in CF + Cano at 2B.
That's assuming no other moves can be made for a CF. Either way, I'd concentrate on upgrading my starting pitching. Any moves that are a marginal potential improvement by trading a young position player for another position player past his prime, I don't make, let alone if we throw in a decent reliever like Bruney.
lol wut
Trade Cano not for Beltran, going to wind up with another A-Rod. Cano goes only if a picture is involved, and only one with numbers.Where o'h where do you find one!
Cano (an unproven 2B who GAVE UP and QUIT on several plays on the infield this season, who gets quality at bats once every 10 games maybe) for a proven CF who hits .300 with some power consistently??? I wish, but the Mets would never agree to it.
i said it last week that this may be a possibe match! last week i said it may take cano and nady for beltran. beltran does not hit a .300 avg, he hits around .270-.280, but other than that he is a 5 tool player. i would hate to see cano go over there and have a hell of a career though.
Beltran is just a little better version than Abreu, if thats the case re-sign Abreu and trade Cano and others for clutch players unlike the clutch-
less Beltran.
i dont think beltran is unclutch, he had the K that everyone remembers in the NLCS. but other than that I think he's a decent clutch hitter, more clutch and in than Arod and David Wright. in 2004 he just went nuts in that postseason, he had like 8 hrs and they didnt even make it to the WS that year.
I could be wrong but Beltran was on the Astros the year he went nuts in the postseason and they did go to the WS, and lost to the White Soxs. I actually like this trade. Yes, it would be nice if Cano was traded for a pitcher but if we were to look at Grienke, or someone like him then it probably would not cost Cano. No way Nady should have anything to do with this trade. Beltran is more like a 275.-285. hitter who hits 25-30 bombs, and steals 25. Beltran also gets on base a whole heck of a lot better than Cano. Comparing a 320. OBP to a 380. OBP.
Keep Cano, give him a chance to grow as a person.
Yes, Yes, Yes and yes. Make up for the mistake that was made back in 2005. Cano is a nice player, but were talking about a CF who plays great defense, who's good for 25-30 homer and 100 rbi's. Plus O-dawg is more then fill in for Cano.
I uld do this move in a heartbeat, even if the Yankees have to throw in Bruney or Veras.
Guys, its time to realize that the Yankees are conducting business differently as when the Boss was running the show and that this team it’s going to get younger no matter what. This crazy idea of Cashman trading Cano + prospects for an aged CF is not going to happen if he didn’t traded him for a great pitcher he is not going to trade him for a good CF unless that player is in the mid 20's.
So don’t waist your time looking at stats and the good stuff Beltran and any over 32 y/o player out there has done we are not going to trade the young talent for older, injury prone and overused players anymore.
Don't believe trade rumors from Frank Rizzo, he likes to prank people as documented on a number of cds and a motion picture. Rizzo's a crafty one with his lamby nipple chops
hahahaha - That's right, it was Frank "Rizzo" from the Jerky Boys, my mistake.
Now, I'm not sure if I'd make this trade. I like Beltran a lot but as some others have said if the Yanks are going to trade Cano I'd like pitching in return. But Beltran is not "un-clutch."
He's a career .306/.385/.535 hitter with RISP,and most importantly he's a .366/.485/.817 hitter in the postseason.
He's also one of, if not the best centerfielders in the game.
I think cano for beltran sound good but I mostly prefer somone like Hamilton or Sizemore
Yea so would I Liam, but I don't think either are going to be on the trading block and if they were I don't think either team would entertain any offers that didn't include Cano and Joba, so no thanks.
You're right, but I don't see beltran in pinstrips.
i heard an interesting idea; putting cano at first and signing hudson.
what about cano in cf? could he do it?
Liam,
To be honest, neither do I.
Dan,
I don't know if that would work. Interesting idea though.
how about a zach greinke and david dejesus for cano and a prospect or two, it may be more appealing for us, especially in the pockets. if we could do that and trade matsui/damon for some useful parts( bullpen, prospects) we will have plenty of money for cc, tex and hudson. we would get a solid centerfielder, not a great arm, but can run down anything and i believe he had the best batting average with risp in the league, over .400. greinke is nasty and would be a great # 3, but he would be a 4 or 5 with us. there's plenty of possibilities out there.
Uhmmm!! NO!
Well, I might be able to live with such a deal. Either way, though, I would not be averse to trading Cano for a player (or two?) who would actually help our team. I guess you might say I'm tired of Cano....
Mike
I like Greinke a lot. I'm not sure about Cano for him - it could work - but I do think the Yanks should look into trying to acquire him.
I heard the Royals may be looking for a package similar to the one the Orioles got for Bedard when it comes to Grienke. That seems to be a bit much so Cano in a deal for Grienke may be what the Royals want.
NO... Keep Cano.
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