Thursday, June 18, 2009

Game 66: Yanks vs. Nats

Regular Season Game 66
Yankees vs. Nationals
New Yankee Stadium - Bronx, NY
Game Time: 1:05 p.m.
TV/Radio: YES, WCBS


Here are the lineups:

YANKEES (37-28)
Brett Gardner CF
Johnny Damon LF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Nick Swisher RF
Hideki Matsui DH
Francisco Cervelli C
Ramiro Pena SS

Pitching: RHP Joba Chamberlain RHP (3-1, 3.84 ERA)

NATIONALS (17-46)
Cristian Guzman SS
Nick Johnson 1B
Ryan Zimmerman 3B
Adam Dunn DH
Austin Kearns RF
Corey Patterson CF
Willie Harris LF
Ronnie Belliard 2B
Wil Nieves C

Pitching: RHP Craig Stammen (0-2, 5.86 ERA)

News & Notes

- Neither pitcher has ever faced anyone on the opposing team.

- Craig Stammen has made five starts in his major league career - all coming in '09 - and is 0-2, with a 5.86 ERA.

- Derek Jeter could return to the lineup tomorrow in Florida.

- As I posted earlier Xavier Nady is headed back to Tampa to continue his rehab. He will play four innings in right field tomorrow.

- Joe Girardi said before the game that Chien-Ming Wang will start Tuesday against the Braves.

- It's pretty much going to rain all day and night, but with this being the only time the Yanks and Nats play, they will do most likely try very hard to get this game in.

Here's Joe Girardi's explanation for why he didn't have A-Rod run in the ninth yesterday via Bryan Hoch:
"We had talked about it. It's kind of a double-edged sword. You figure he can hit into a line drive and you get doubled up. then you have Cano and Posada, two pretty good RBI guys, and you lose the chance for Posada to hit. Even though Robbie's not a huge pull hitter, you close that hole up if he steals, and then they play the infield in. There's a lot of different things that you have. Al is physically probably not running as well as he was last year, but he's fairly close. If we got a 3-2 situation, am I saying that I'd hold him up? I'm not saying that. But we talk about it. (Mike) MacDougal is quicker than he used to be to home plate. There's a lot of factors that went into it."
That's fair, but with Gardner on third I still don't think Bard even throws to second. So if you go early enough in the count you could get the winning run in scoring position fairly easily. Then the Nats probably walk Cano to face Posada with the bases loaded. And yes, I know he's a double play candidate too, but he's also very capable of hitting a fly ball when he needs to. But it could go either way, there are valid points on both sides.

WEATHER UPDATE (1:08 p.m.):
There may be a window at 3:00 p.m. that could last a few hours. That's also what they're saying at the US Open.

UPDATE 3:18 p.m.: Mike Francesa just said on WFAN and YES that the Yankees are saying the game will start at 4:00 p.m.

UPDATE 3:44 p.m.: According to WFAN the tarp is still on the field, so I don't know about that 4 p.m. start.

UPDATE 3:51 p.m.: The Yankees just backed off the 4 p.m. start time. More rain coming through.

UPDATE 5:50 p.m.: 6:30 p.m. start time now. Tarp coming off the field.

Stick around and discuss the game
as it happens in the comments section

100 Comments:

crossfire said...

I'm glad to hear that Nady isn't going to be brought up until he is ready to throw. As much as I would like to see his bat on the bench, he simply isn't ready to play the field.

I checked the weather and it just doesn't look like there is any window available to play the game. If they do play, it will be in the rain.

Greg Cohen said...

Yea I agree, hopefully the rain stays light and they can play through it. Like you said, that's their only chance.

Greg Cohen said...

This is going to be a long delay.

a7tex said...

im not sure wat to do i have tickets for today

Greg Cohen said...

How long does it take you to get to the stadium?

Unknown said...

According to weather.com it shows rain all day. It will stink for the teams if they have to postpone the game.

crossfire said...

The Yankees and the US Open are hoping for a window to open up very soon but I don't see any time soon where it will actually stop raining. Maybe just lighten up a bit.

The US Open thinks they might get a 5 hour window to play before dark if that gives you any idea.

I think they will play the game today because they just don't want to postpone it with Washington being done here after this.

NY Sports Jerk said...

I refuse to accept Girardi's explanation. What he's essentially saying is that he was worried about the statistically unlikely line drive double play, leaving the door open for the much more likely groundball double play.

That is such a load of garbage. He should WANT them to bring the infield in.

Greg Cohen said...

Can't disagree with that NYSJ.

a7tex said...

well im not going cuz its not worth the money for the train it would take me like 1 hour 15 to get there anyway

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Anonymous said...

First pitch at 4

SteveB said...

NYSJ is correct, in fact Girardi's quote sounds like doubletalk to me. A-Rod steals, Cano would have been intentionally walked and then Posada hits. There is no "and you lose the chance for Posada to hit" here. In fact I WANT Jorgie to hit. I also want the infield to play in, but I think they go for the DP.

So what did Girardi actually say? You got me.

Greg Cohen said...

Steve, Girardi meant he'd lose Posada's bat if Cano lined into a double play.

Anonymous said...

Just read from Ken Rosenthal that the yankees are looking at Pedro. Please if Cashman signs Pedro he should be fired. Pedro is a washed up pitcher who will get lit up in the AL East.

NY Sports Jerk said...

Of course he also lost his bat with Cano grounding into a DP.

That's one of the stupidest explanations I've ever seen. Worst case, they put the pressure on McDougal to throw a strike with the bases loaded.

Considering the guy has a WHIP over 2, and more walks than IP, I'd say that's a position we would want.

Girardi is managing scared.

Greg Cohen said...

NYSJ, I agree. I still think they should have sent him. There's no doubt about that.

Anonymous said...

You cant say Girardi is managing scared when he had Gardner steal third base. That was a gutsy call. Cano has to hit the ball in the air.

NY Sports Jerk said...

They barely hit the ball in the air all night, why did Girardi suddenly think they would in the 9th inning?

The percentage play there is to avoid the double play by running with A-Rod. Chances are they don't throw through, and it STILL takes a flyball for Cano to tie the game.

crossfire said...

Everyone can blame Girardi all they want and I won't argue it with anyone's right to their opinion on this.

But in my opinion, Girardi made the right call. (I didn't hear his reasoning for it but it doesn't matter to me, because regardless of the reason, it was still the right call... albeit with a poor outcome.)

We had the hottest hitter on the team up with a man on first and third.

Cano is the one who should be blamed for hitting into the double play when his job is to drive the ball into the outfield and score the run.

I love Cano but he simply did not get the job done. It happens. I didn't hear any of the post game and I was busy today and haven't heard from Cano but I bet he thinks he should have driven in the run from third.

There was nobody on the team that I would have rather be at the plate more than Cano. But like I said, he just didn't get it done.

And if ARod steals second, Cano gets an intentional pass and it isn't like Posada isn't a big threat to hit into a double play too.

And I bet if that had happened, Girardi would be getting killed today for doing it.

And if Cano does his job and drives in the run, which he should have, and the Yanks go on to win the game, nobody is talking about it today.

Anonymous said...

our bats were asleep for the first 5 innings. we werent even working the count early in the game against their pitcher last night to get his pitch count up. he had 54 pitches by the time canoe hit his home run. frustrating

NY Sports Jerk said...

I'm not going to blame Cano. He fouled off like 9 pitches and McDougal finally got him out.

Probably the best AB Cano has had in his entire career, he just didn't get the result at the end.

Girardi put him in position to fail by keeping A-Rod stationary at 1st.

crossfire said...

Girardi never had the option to keep the Yanks out of a double play situation.

If ARod steals second, Cano gets walked to set up the double. There is absolutely no doubt about that.

And then the double play is still in order with a hitter who is not as hot and runs like he is carrying a piano.

The if Posada, who is now in the exact same position, hits into a double play, Girardi gets killed for it.

The fact is that there was no way that the Yanks were not going to be in position for a double play.

I just don't get the argument.

If the argument is that by ARod stealing second, the Yanks would win with a hit because ARod was in scoring position, I could at least understand the argument but I would still disagree with it because Cano was a hotter hitter than Posada.

crossfire said...

The second line above should read:

If ARod steals second, Cano gets walked to set up the double play.

SteveB said...

Greg, I just saw your answer to my comment. Does Girardi really think the Nats would pitch to Cano with 2nd and 3rd and 1 out? And what would stop Cano from lining out in the first place even if A-Rod doesn't steal? Nonsensical answer.

crossfire said...

Not sure if this was posted already but I just heard that the Yanks and Nats do not have a common date to make this game up for the rest of the year so I think they will play it even if they have to wait all day.

Unknown said...

The only way they are going to play is in the rain. Doesn't look like it's going to stop tonight.

NY Sports Jerk said...

Crossfire-

The argument is that if they walk Cano, MacDougal faces Posada with the bases loaded and no margin for error.

MacDougal has 12 walks in 12 innings this season. Don't you think it would make sense to force him to throw a strike? Posada is a disciplined enough hitter not to help him out.

Unknown said...

Did you guys see this about Pedro? Idk if someone already posted this but it says the yankees and 3 other teams are interested in him. It would be weird seeing him in a yankee shirt but if he can pitch like he use to and not get hurt I'll take him.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AiO4vTMG.aCTgRxBZw91QIkRvLYF?slug=ge-pedroyankees061809&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

crossfire said...

I understand that argument but as I stated before, I would rather have Cano up than Posada.

Yeah, it would have put more pressure on MacDougal but he was already dealing strikes to Cano in a pressure situation.

And Posada is way more likely to hit into a double play than Cano.

Simply put, Cano didn't get the job done. I'm not killing him for it. It happens. But I would much rather have Cano hitting there than Posada because I know Jorge is about as slow as they come and he is a ground ball away from definitely ending the game where Cano can beat a double play ball out sometimes.

One thing I know for sure, if this had been ARod instead of Cano, he would be getting killed for it. Maybe not by you but by a lot of other people.

And I am absolutely positive that if Posada had hit into a double play, the same Girardi bashing would be going on.

I would love to have heard what Cano said afterward. I bet he wasn't blaming the manager because he knew that he didn't do his job.

Cano gets the hit, nobody is talking about this.

It has seriously been way too over-analyzed.

It comes down to this... no matter what the situation, if either Cano or Posada gets the hit, Joe was right and if either hit into a double play, Joe gets killed.

But it still comes down to the execution by the player and Cano didn't get the job done.

Unknown said...

WOW! There is NOBODY at the game! So many left.

crossfire said...

Dammit!

I bet Anon blames that run on Cervelli. LOL

a7tex said...

wow i didnt even know that the game started, crossfire i dont wannna start a fight but anon probably blames that run on posada not cervelli

crossfire said...

Excellent point a7tex. I was wrong. I should have known it was Posada's fault. lol

Greg Cohen said...

Why is Joba pitching away from contact with Wil Nieves at the plate? Make him put the damn ball in play.

crossfire said...

Joba needs to learn how to put hitters away. Walking the 8 hitter with bases loaded after getting ahead 1-2 is idiotic.

crossfire said...

I don't get it either Greg.

Posada screwed us again! lol

Greg Cohen said...

I actually think Posada should be catching Joba because Joba thinks he's smarter than he is. He needs a veteran to tell him what to throw. He just has to stop shaking him off.

JC said...

This shit with Joba is getting old. He needs to either learn to throw strikes or be taken out of the rotation. It's unacceptable how he puts this team in a hole every goddamn time he starts.

Then he sits there after the game and acts like it's no big deal.

It's bullshit now. And it needs to end.

JC said...

And if we lost this series to the NATIONALS, this team really is a joke.

Greg Cohen said...

Meanwhile they have two hits against Stammen. Joba is not pitching well, but this offensive performance is disgraceful.

JC said...

Agreed. The whole team has been a joke this series.

Greg Cohen said...

Four shutout innings against this bum. What a joke.

crossfire said...

I agree with all of the last comments. He is starting to pitch himself into the bullpen and not in the way a lot of people hoped. He seems to have lost his balls.

Joba is at a point now where I don't know if I would trust him in the 8th inning anymore.

And the offense has been embarrassing.

This team needs a kick in the ass.

JoeNYy said...

the delay was a fucking joke.
i went with my cousin- my dad works in the bronx. he had to leave at 5:30 so we had to leave to. 50 dollars + 25 on food, down the drain with the rain. they should have cancelled it. i hated this shit, now im down 75 bucks, not seeing one pitch.

a7tex said...

i would so much rather see joba in the pen and hughes in the rotation. How many people here agree?

Mario said...

another no name pitcher dominating our pathetic bats...40 pitches thru 4 innings, yet Joba is already at 70 plus with 3 walks, fire the hitting coach, he sucks ass

crossfire said...

I agree a7tex. At this point, Joba is the worst starter on the staff. I have more confidence in Wang than Joba. At least I can see Wang steadily improving. Joba is quickly regressing.

Plus I have more confidence in Hughes than either of them.

a7tex said...

finally someone on but he doesnt even stay there

Greg Cohen said...

Why is Swisher taking chances like that down 3-0?

crossfire said...

Another moronic running play by Swisher. He is by far the worst base runner I have seen in a long time.

He needs to be on the bench.

crossfire said...

Why is Swisher doing it? Because he's an idiot. He has zero base running instincts. He had absolutely no chance to get to second and that was blatantly obvious as he got to first.

Unknown said...

Where is the X man when you need him?

Greg Cohen said...

They really need to get something going with the top of the order coming up this inning.

daneptizl said...

Terrible. F.

crossfire said...

I am still pissed at Swisher. His clown act has gotten old fast. He needs to pull his head out of his ass.

He needs to ride the bench. Until Nady gets back, the outfield should be Damon, Gardner and Melky.

Liam Gallagher said...

Swisher is a idiot.

crossfire said...

6 innings and 4 hits off a crap pitcher.

Pathetic.

Greg Cohen said...

This bum had a 7.33 ERA in Triple-A this year and he's holding the Yanks to four hits.

Liam Gallagher said...
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daneptizl said...

A-Rod's late on below 90 fastballs...

Anonymous said...

Is really is pathetic.

Greg Cohen said...

Wow what a catch... Nothing going the Yankees way tonight.

crossfire said...

At least ARod finally turned on a ball.

They need to drive these two runs in off Vallone.

Greg Cohen said...

Yea, these runs are big. That was a great at-bat by Swisher.

daneptizl said...

The ML won't suit you Mats... it's the Hanshin Tigers for you.

Greg Cohen said...

Matsui goes down swinging at a ball two feet out of the strike zone.

a7tex said...

lets go jeter!!!!

Anonymous said...

The Yankees really need a big hit right now.

Greg Cohen said...

Damn, Tavarez owns Jeter. Jeet is 3-for-18 (.167) against him.

crossfire said...

Lets go Captain!!!

a7tex said...

well there are three hits for a reason vs. taveraz

Greg Cohen said...

Damn.

daneptizl said...

Losing 2 out of 3 against the worst team in baseball at home... I can almost tear up....

crossfire said...

that sucked

Anonymous said...

Posada failed. Matsui failed. Jeter failed. Is there any wonder why this team stinks? There is what $50m in money and they all stink. But, according to Girardi, Posada is a run driving-in machine. According to Cashman, he is happy with the team he has built. Both should lose their jobs immediately. Posada should DH, Matsui should retire and Jeter should go bag groceries. Typical from the Big 3. And, what a hit by Jeter. He really cranked it.

Greg Cohen said...

Posada failed?

What the hell are you talking about? He walked and didn't get a pitch to hit.

daneptizl said...

Shut up! Logic is for stupid people!

Greg Cohen said...

Hell of a play by Gardner, I hope he's OK. Maybe that can inspire this group of losers.

Anonymous said...

His job is to drive in runs, isn't it? That is all he does. He does nothign else. Get a friggin hit at a key time Posada instead of being a friggin choke artist all the time.

Greg Cohen said...

You can't get a hit if every pitch is out of the strike zone.

Anonymous said...

Yes you can, you obviously dont watch other hitters. It happens all the time. Especially other hitters who hit Yankee pitchers with pitches out of the strike zone. They are professionals. His job is to drive in runs especially in that spot. We dont need a walk.


The problem with ALL Yankee hitters is they try to hit HR's with pitches that are not designed to hit HR's off of. There are certain pitches based on location that you go the other way with even out of the zone. Yankee hitters, including the rbi-god Posada, dont do that well at all.

Posada, Matsui and Jeter failed. End of story. Do your friggin jobs or get someone else that can. Just like last night. Oh, taht's right, according to the worst GM ever, he is happy with this current team. And, Girardi thinks Posada and Cano are rbi-gods. Obviously, Cashman and Girardi have NOT watched these players over the last few years.

Anonymous said...

Or, there stupid. I guess the latter is true because the first is not.

Anonymous said...

*they're

Anonymous said...

their?

daneptizl said...

Alex...

Greg Cohen said...

Teixeira missed a meatball.

Anonymous said...

Bad job by the yanks, I feel bad for all those fans who waited five hours to see this trainwreck.

Great effort by Gardner I hope he is okay.

Anonymous said...

Wow, can this team hit! Yup Cashman, you sure would be the one to be happy with this team. You're going to lose to the worst team in baseball TWICE at home. Yankee management shows what a joke they are every day. Laughing stock of baseball.

Anonymous said...

Oh wow Roberstson does EXACTLY what Veras use to do. Excellent. More great Yankee FO. Maybe, just maybe the problem is Yankee management.

Anonymous said...

Robertson did something Veras could not do, battle and get out of the jam.

Anonymous said...

Veras has done that too. You obviously didn't pay attention last year. And, it doesn't change the fact that Robertson has no business whatsoever of walking Will Nieves there. This is the Nats. A good team, unlike the Yankees, will make you pay for it.

Greg Cohen said...

Wow, they just lost two of three to the Nationals. What a joke.

Anonymous said...

Pathetic, isn't the word. But, according to Cashman, he is happy with this current team. This organization (management) accepts mediocrity plain and simple.

Anonymous said...

And, today's game proves we dont need Posada. Cervelli can do the same thing (give up 3 runs) with a far worse pitcher who has less control than either CC or Wang.

rob said...

thats it. i am officially embarrassed to be a yankee fan. this is absolutely ridiculous now. this is a team we should hit the crap out of. as leat the bullpen is better now, but man, this was a series they should've swept. unbelievable. now lets hope the red sox game is called off.

Brian Danuff said...

Jeez, this sucks.

We can only hope we rebound against the Marlins and Braves. At this point, we can not afford to loose to these teams.

Brian Danuff said...

If we finish off the 1st half a game or so out of 1st, I'd call that not a bad 1st half, jsut not the one we envisioned in the offseason.

Mario said...

THEEEE worst team in MLB, & in all honestly could have been swept, if for not another "COMEBACK WIN" on tues night, something needs to change...like last week, good teams like dare i say BOSTON don't lose to the worst team @ home...

crossfire said...

I was hoping Anon would come in tonight and cry like the bitch that he is.

Whine some more idiot. LOL

Oh... and attempt to teach us once again how the abbreviation for shut out is SO.

Ran away last night like a bitch after he made a complete ass out of himself.

Whine some more bitch! LOL